Frustrating doesnt come half way near it! I would be more than happy for you to pass on my emails and if fact I would be more than happy to forward all of the e/mails and notes I have kept on this. Im not sure if you have access to my e/mail address listed but if someone would like to contact me or if you can suggest someone I can e/mail with the details I would be more than happy to.

Cheers and have a great weekend

Sue

Yikes! That sounds so frustrating. Thanks for hanging in there with us. If you don’t mind I will pass your emails on to an area in Telstra that looks at the root cause of issues. We need to fix this and your feedback will be of great help. Thanks for taking the time to tell us about your experience – it really will make a difference.

Cheers

Kristen

I’ve done my bit. Viz:

Kind Regards

E-mail sent today

“Dear Senator Ludlam,

Congratulations on your great achievement.

The following report clearly demonstrates the fact that the study details are an essential part and parcel of the considerations by the Senate into the current Telstra legislation which, in fact, means – no study no legislation pass.

Kind Regards”

NBN study prices cheap, slow broadband
By Liam Tung, ZDNet.com.au
11 March 2010 05:29 PM

Tags: iinet, internode, mike quigley, nbn co, netspace, optus, scott ludlam, stephen conroy

analysis If Greens Senator Scott Ludlam wins his fight to have the government table the National Broadband Network (NBN) implementation study, what will he find?

If Minister for Communications Stephen Conroy is true to his word, it will contain the gory details of how to get the lowest paying broadband customers onto fibre.

In April last year, shortly after the announcement that the government would go it alone on the NBN, Conroy laid out fairly clearly what would be in the study.

“No consumer or business will be forced to pay anything for services on the NBN,” said Conroy. “But clearly affordability is an important factor to drive take-up. NBN prices cannot be structured without having careful regard to the prices people pay today for comparable services… The implementation study will give careful regard to pricing levels on the National Broadband Network.”

In other words, the study will try to define a wholesale price that will enable retail service providers to offer packages that are cheap enough to lure the very bottom of Australia’s broadband user base to the new deal.

What the study could safely assume, as has been borne out by the Australian Communications and Media Authority’s recent figures, is that even if higher speeds become available, Australian consumers might not pay extra to take them up. But they will take higher speeds if they become available at the same price as today.

What it will all boil down to is the study’s pricing recommendations for slower connections — not 100Mbps but 1 to 8Mbps, where 30 per cent of all internet connections sit. Can it, for example, provide 20Mbps — the current maximum for ADSL2+ — at a lower cost than what internet service providers (ISPs) are currently paying to install their own “DSLAMs” in Telstra’s exchanges?

iPrimus’ cheapest copper network ADSL2+ is $30 a month on a 3GB download quota, which is provided over Telstra’s unbundled local loop at a cost of $16.70 per month in metropolitan areas.

It’s not just fixed-line pricing the study will have to take into account when considering how low pricing has to go for the network to be viable, but also the price and speed of wireless broadband. As has become clear in the past two years, wireless broadband is snapping at the heels of fixed line broadband, which also means it is snapping at NBN Co’s.” ……… Continued:

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/NBN-study-prices-cheap-slow-broadband/0,130061791,339301701,00.htm

Let me explain. The telecommunications watchdog, aka Graeme Samuel, the ACCC supremo decides on the regulated wholesale rate that must be offered to Telstra’s, shall we say ‘competitors’, (there are 600 hundred of them). Clearly, a rate that is below the cost of Telstra maintaining its aged copper network, let alone, providing services in terms of its Universal Service Obligations, meaning providing services to hundreds of outlying areas where ‘competitors’ don’t venture because there is no easy money for them. Hence, Telstra is lumbered with that part of its business and the likes of you, me and Telstra shareholders carry the ’shortfall’ can.

As it happens, the following may elucidate this, age old, folly further:

“iPrimus’ cheapest copper network ADSL2+ is $30 a month on a 3GB download quota, which is provided over Telstra’s unbundled local loop at a cost of $16.70 per month in metropolitan areas”

Extract, Courtesy:

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/NBN-
study-prices-cheap-slow-broadband/0,130061791,339301701,00.htm

Kind Regards

Telstra exchange is simply NWAT revisited. Well this thread is anyway. I thought this was meant for comms discussion (a view on communications)?

But like NWAT which turned into a political Howard hate fest, when bitter shareholders blamed him, TE has done the same, with the same players but different target, now Rudd. OMG…

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/industry-sectors/coalition-looking-to-telstra-for-poll-boost/story-e6frg9hx-1225837521234

Check this, the 2nd last paragraph for a NWAT blast from the past, lol…

6/3/10 – “I always voted Labor, but because of the way this government is treating Telstra, I will vote Liberal for the first time,” Melbourne engineer F*rnando *ias wrote.

More shareytales. When I first started posting on NWAT, 12 months ago (following Telstra non-compliant bid, but well before talks of Telstra separation etc) the above NWAT disciple, was already referring to Rudd as red Rudd and whatever else.

Can you NWAT rejects, ever tell the truth!

I think we have actually found someone who can out Sydney and out Vasso, in relation to ridiculous, well… everything, lol…

Edna and Fred it is good that you question the blackmail and threat that is directed at Telstra for the sole purpose of removing Telstra from providing competition for the Government NBN Co. Those interested in obtaining a fair go for Telstra can rest assured that the legal aspects of the situation will be closely examined by the Telstra legal department.

It is a fact that the Howard Government was not to be admired for its attitude to Telstra and you are correct that it is of little use looking to an Opposition leader for succour, but at some stage that Opposition leader will become the Prime Minister and Australia’s leader. I think we should wait and hope for a satisfactory negotiated result, and if this is not to be, organise ourselves for a protest meeting at Parliament House, Canberra before the next election.

On thing we do have to be vigilant for is the agent provocateurs who masquerade as Telstra supporters when really, by their history, they wish Telstra harm and should be revealed for the cunning trouble makers they are.

I never try reasoning with village idiots. Always remenber…….
‘Illegitimi non carborundum’