Brendan refering to, and after consideration of your suggested rule that all Exchange prticipants desist from hurtful references to others I agree totally that this action will be a good thing. It was certainly not my desire, or intention, to be disrespectful to others and will make sure that any future correspondence from myself will not contain personal critical reflection on fellow Exchange Posters. Your perusal as monitoring Editor to delete the referral to personal details of others (Shareholding of those involved etc) is greatly appreciated. Thank you once again and every best wish in your endeavours to empower Telstra to better serve Australia.

One thing I learnt in Africa, is that the leopard can’t change its spots.

Also, It seems some here are unable to distinguish between ‘Growth stocks’ and ‘Value stocks’

Utilities are clearly in the latter group, and thrive by its value generation in lieu of CapAp. In Telstra’s case, a constant grossed-up dividend yield in the upper range of 12.54% pa

Lastly, I have better things to do.

Vasso
It looks like the 50ton BULLS have already been let loose in TASMANIA. ( item vasso attached yesterday )

This type of field work is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

This is what can be seen. What is the damage we CANNOT see.

If this is how they are putting the outside plant in, how are they going to do the rest of the work we cannot see.

I recall a comment to me about an ex telstra staff member who had pride in his exchange and when he saw what had been done since he had left cried and stated he NEVER wanted to see it again.
From what I can make out it is the other providers just doing as they like and Telstra having no say.

Telstra also has problems with contractors they use. I witnessed a case where their actions in combination with other workers,r may have caused very serious injury by not taking precautions.( It was luck)

Is the same going to happen with the NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK. Go in and just do whatever they want. It appears it may be from field indications in Tasmania.

Our main concern should be on this area to show the communications service that customers need. When we have this right then we can look at the shareprice. A lot of you are building the rooms before the foundations.

I read the Australian artical on \Conroy confident of an NBN deal\ and I am so disillusioned by his persistant bully tactics.
He just does not get it.
Australians do not respond favourably to people who try and get their way with this type of behaviour.
This is another clink in the armour of a party that has been given the privelege of forming government.
How many grass fires can you attend to before you run out of resources.
Look at the opinion polls, they are telling you to start listening
to your constituents before they decide not to give you
any advice even if you had second thoughts and tried to
consult with them.
It may already be too late.

Seriously, coming here and reading the always biased, flip-flopping comments of a few forever partial Telstra supporters, saves me a fortune in not needing a subscription to the comedy channel…

An example of such humour! Only a two days ago the “magician mathematician” told us (apparently with a straight face) that the NBN was NOT viable because (and listen carefully now) you need to use a growth figure of “6% compounded (what not 18% like Telstra’s FTTN demand) on investments/returns or investment is simply NOT viable”!

Of course I then used that 6% figure, on his TLS shares to find that they are (-63% growth) and certainly NOT a viable investment what-so-ever.

But having done so, today the magician flip-flops, and now tells me, “no Robbie, you are wrong, it isn’t growth (after all) it’s actually the dividend (yield) that matters”! Lol…

UMM, IT WAS “YOUR FIGURES” (THE ONES YOU USED TO DISPARAGE THE NBN) THAT I USED TOO! Hellooo!

Ok, to keep Brendan happy with my friendly demeanour, let’s forget that growth gibberish from a few days ago and simply put that faux pas down to the comedy factor. So that we can concentrate on today’s magic [sic], the yield!

Ok, so if the NBN were to offer investors say a dividend of 14c, fully franked, paid twice yearly, going by today’s magic; that would make the NBN a most viable investment, then? Lol…

Also, speaking of viability, I still haven’t received an answer regarding unprofitable hospitals, roads etc and whether (like your NBN claims) due to their lack of profitability, they should no longer be built (or even closed)?

But unlike you minions here (who will never cede to anything, even reality) I agree the TLS dividend is very attractive. 14c paid twice yearly for a share which is trading only just above $3 is very good.

But realistically, it is intentionally inflated and has to be, doesn’t it? Otherwise having (-63%) growth, while there are many other lucrative growth investment alternatives out there, Telstra would only have two stubborn, biased, dreamer investors left wouldn’t they?

Seeing all of this, I agree again, some leopards will never change their NWAT spots!

The problem with many on this site is you are running before you can even crawl.

“You are looking at shareprice and changes at the top before looking at the basics.”

You need understanding and experience at the lower level to build an understanding of what is needed at a higher level. Without this we have massive waste.
We have this problem not only with Telstra but with railways, roads, local council, state governments, hospitals etc. In answer to one comment we do need Hospitals etc but we need them built smarter.
We need to be more productive and working smarter at the lower level.

My only hope is that we do not get given a NBN built by these people just looking at the top picture.
( It appears it will be.)

The network TELSTRA had built was not a simple job. On the crossbar exchange switching equipment( 60’s to 80’s ) over 2000 modifications had to be done to get it to work to Australian conditions. Who is going to get the NBN to work to Australian conditions!!!!!!!

Being innovative is not the only requirement , you need to have results that work. Here we need to show how Telstra can proceed to the future and provide Australia the best.

NBN implementation study has been released and it looks increasingly like Negotiations with Telstra are failing and the NBN will go it alone if some deal cant be soon.. End of June was mentioned..

I hope this is not the way its going to turn out, as it would be good if Telstra was on board and would be bound to increase share value..
NBN have to justify spending billions on either compensating Telstra or just using those billions to construct the Network without Telstra. The latter is looking more the case.

With the Extraordinarily competitive plans already proposed , it wont be any problem for them to win customerage from Telstra.
Shareholders should be very concerned if no deal is done.

Hear hear, as usual Paul Grenfell…

With the go ahead of the NBN indicated today TELSTRA needs to show it can do it far superior to the governments NBN. It needs to show the major issues that will come and there is a lot already.

There is one issue that even TELSTRA has MAJOR PROBLEMS with and that is to do with the use of unskilled contractors.

I know of a case very recently where contractors to Telstra were working in a difficult area next to a large brick letterbox and a hole just under 2 metres deep next to it, appeared to not take any precautions. They used it for support which it did not have at the time. They were told at the time not to support themselves on it but they disreguarded the advice. It was noticed later that the letterbox had a slight dip and I advised the council workers but they could not see the issue ahead. A few days later is was very lucky after a ground slip we did not have serious injury or death because it was morning tea time at the time. There was damage to Telstra , water and Electricity conduits etc. The workers working with the hole were local council workers but they did not expect it to fall. I did tell them after the Telstra contractors had left that the letterbox did not appear level but they did not think it would affect them. I was not involved with the actual work but observed it from a safe distance to make sure I knew what had been done in case of problems afterwards as I would of been affected. It was my letterbox on my property on a drain owned by the council.

PLEASE PLEASE We do not want a repeat. Look at the problems we will have. It will cost Australians a LOT more.

I can see THREE MAJOR ISSUE GROUPS. .

1. Damage to present plant by the installation will be massive. ( Look at Tasmania already )
2. Use of unskilled staff in all areas.
3. Connection and providing of SERVICES.

Another…

http://www.zdnet.com.au/43bn-nbn-not-so-back-of-the-envelope-339302911.htm